Only in Jesus-dependency. The independent is wise in his own eyes, leans on his own understanding, does not ASK Jesus about evathang, nor does he THANK Jesus about evathang, and he is not curious/expectant to see what Jesus does NEXT, in him, others, circumstances. There is no contagious Jesus in an independent. Only in a Jesus-dependent.
Independents are great at getting things done with human power, and they succeed in business, government, education, but not in the Body of Christ. Or saying it better, success in the organized Church is measured the same way success is measured in business, government, education — by human standards, human power. Lives are not transformed into Jesus-dependency by human power, human planning, human execution. The Holy Spirit is not needed for success in business, government, education, nor in the Church as we know It. Better strategies will not produce a better Church. Better humans will produce a better Church, a much-different Church, where the Jesus in humans is contagious to the other humans, as it was in the early Church.
—Dave McCarty, GospelFriendships, who thinks he sees the problem but feels powerless to be different or make a difference, unless the Spirit works
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